Folds in a sheet of paper / metal / cloth

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 Dietmar Klein 11 Votes I am an artist, drawing and working with 3d. Since long time, I am missing a method to form realistic folds and wrinkles into virtual sheets of paper, metal or cloth. I found some attempts within 3d-programs, but I never saw something that was not very limited or looked like rubber. Because it is so easy at reality, but so difficult at the computer, I think there is just little mathematical base.First of all: Could anybody tell me, what field of mathematics this is?
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 Sander Huisman 6 Votes Dear Dietmar,This is basically origami. It is all about crease-patterns, obeying several rules/constraints. And that can be solved by circle packing.See especially this TED video:Robert Lang: The math and magic of origamienjoy
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 Dietmar Klein 1 Vote I heard about this guy (and tried to contact him many years ago.) Yes, it is nearby. Maybe this is it,- but I am not sure: Think of it not at a way which leads to the optimum but as an accident which goes its physical way. I am longing for the process. What happens on the way from the flat sheet to 180°-fold? How tide can you go? What about the stiffnes of the sheet and the tendency to smooth all edges? Where is the point of break, from which you need more sharp angles? (And, by the way, I would not be able to transform his program into 3d-program.)Thank you so far.
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 Michael Hale 6 Votes MIT posts their course on Geometric Folding Algorithms for free here: Geometric Folding Algorithms: Linkages, Origami, PolyhedraI watched one a while ago and thought it was very interesting. I had no idea the mathematics of paper folding was so well-developed!
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 Vitaliy Kaurov 9 Votes This is an interesting question, and Sander and Michael started putting out ideas for resources. I thought it is a good idea for a start and I would note a couple of related things.Robert Lang==========First of all Robert Lang, the presenter in the TED video linked by Sander, is an avid Mathematica user. For example quoting Rober Lang from McGill's "Origami pteranodon" :I love Mathematica. TreeMaker (his own origami software) is a surgeon’s scalpel—a very narrow tool that does what it does incredibly well, but nothing else. Mathematica is the world’s largest Swiss Army knife. You can do anything in it: analyze, compute, simulate, visualize. And almost any project that involves something I’ve never done before probably involves Mathematicaat some point. With Mathematica, I can import things. I can manipulate them, I can do visualization. I can solve equations, I can do algebraic manipulations and 3D renderings. I can plot surface graphs. It’s just mind-boggling.Just in case here is another link. Robert Lang is also an author at Wolfram Demonstrations where the source code notebooks can be freely downloaded:You can find moch more at Demonstrations Project - just search, for example: folding or origami or paper. According to his recent interview The Art of Origami we can again quote Robert Lang:I also have a fairly large Mathematica package, called Tessellatica, which contains tools for designing, constructing, and visualising origami tessellations of broad variety and runs within the Mathematica environment, but it’s not publicly released yet.- something to keep in mind.Yves Klett=========Another great Mathematica user Yves Klett has had presented at Wolfram Technology conference about folding - see for example: Aerospace Origami & Fractal Folding and the video An Engineer's Box of Chocolates.Research=========The following research paper (Non)existence of Pleated Folds: How Paper Folds Between CreasesErik D. Demaine, Martin L. Demaine, Vi Hart, Gregory N. Price, Tomohiro Tachihas extensive discussion on creases with given Mathematica code. If you check the authors affiliations and do a little web search on them, you will find them to be very interesting creative people. Here is a snapshot from the paper:I hope more discussion will follow with more precise approaches.
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 Dietmar Klein 3 Votes Thanks for supporting. I did not yet study all, and I will spend some time with this. Up to now I have the feeling, that origami is a part, but differs. Maybe its a matter of dimension (3 instead of 2? 4 instead of 3?;-) or random or physics. This is a spontaneous try to focuse an example:PS.: Of course I saw the "stent",- this drawing is not a 100% serious. But up to now I lack words to descibe the difference.
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 Nicolas Venuti 6 Votes Hi DietmarA while ago (Fiac 2007-8 maybe), in a famous garden in Paris, I have seen what seems to be huge sheet of wrinkled metal, exactly like a paper sheets, the one you throw to the trash can. The artist who made that is Wang Du  ( some samples here ). I am still wondering of how he succeed to do it, is it reproduction at scale or is it made using a mechanical process ? It was metal and seems to have been made by a geant hand...The right tool to simulate that kind of shaping is finite element, with some special hypothesis (thin material). Those kind of tools are used in the automotive industry for crash test simulation.  But even if you could access such a tool (witch usually run on a supercomputer), for artistic design, I am not sure there is a way to design any shape in an other way than experiment on scaled models. And it is maybe not even reproducable, even with a folding robot that apply repeatable constraints because of instable effects. This let randomness play a good role for art creativity, anyway.Nicolas
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 Vitaliy Kaurov 8 Votes Here is a link to what Nicolas is talking about: FEM - Finite Element Method. In addition I also would like to mention something called curved folding - which is basically something we already touched upon earlier. Still take a look at this beautiful site: CURVED FOLDINGMartin Kilian, Simon Floery, Zhonggui Chen, Niloy J. Mitra, Alla Sheffer, Helmut PottmannACM SIGGRAPH 2008And also take a look at the attached PDF papers at the bottom of the site. Some images look like almost what you need, and give some schematics.
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 Dietmar Klein 1 Vote To Nicolas: There are so many different things he does,- I am nearly sure that Wang Du does small modells and gives them to a company. There they scan the model, make a big reproduction and do the finish by touching up, polishing and so on. Demian Hirst works similar, or 1 generation earlier: Andy Warhol or, roughly 20 generations earlier, Rembrandt.But I am not longing for art,- I want to model with 3d. FEM could it be. I understand nothing, but: Isnt there any chance to break this down for just visual purposes? By shortening the lenght of computing until the xx. step or details less than xx whatevers? By adding a bit of fuzzy? Or by limiting on 5 to 10 standard situations?
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 Thanks for your interests, Nicolas,I do not get all , because I am not at home at english nore at mathematical terminology. But I think, something like this would work. Please wait some days. I would like to think about the very needs, do another sketches and show you again.Dietmar