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A Bunch Of MRB Constants?

Posted 9 years ago
POSTED BY: Udo Krause
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POSTED BY: Marvin Ray Burns

These appear to be the ensemble of kth roots of k for k from 1 onward. As the pictures pretty much show, the set (-1)^k*(rootsofk-1) will approach the two translates of the unit circle in the complex plane, by +-1 along the x axis.

From here it is not clear to me which are to be selected in forming variants on the MRB evaluation. One possibility is to fix an integer j, and in a given summation always use the jth root counting counterclockwise starting (j=0, that is) at the principle root on the positive x axis (and when j is larger in magnitude than k, take j modulo k). So for j=0 we recover the usual MRB summation.

What happens for other values of j? It is not difficult to show that for fixed j and k sufficiently large, these terms approach the usual MRB summands and the difference is (-1)^k*k^(1/k)(Exp[I*j/(2*k)]-1). This in turn is approximated, to first order, by I*j/(2*k). So the tails of the modified and standard MRB sums will start to differ by roughly I*j/2 times the tail of the standard alternating harmonic series.

I'm not sure whether this tells us much about what these variant summations look like. Mostly I was proposing a possible use for the different kth roots of k since it was not clear what would be their role in these alternate sums.

POSTED BY: Daniel Lichtblau

I think an important thought we can take home about the points, or "terms of the partial sums of the many satellites (on straight lines through -1 + 0 I or on straight lines through 1 + 0 I) of the MRB constant," or roots of x^k=k is that for every k there are a finite number of unique ones! or at least so it seems !!!!!!!!

POSTED BY: Marvin Ray Burns

The points given by specific values of k follow the pattern shown in the following snippet, were k=13 is used for a clear example.

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Here is the graph with just the points from k=13:

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Here are the points with k=4 and their graph: (I think there are less unique points because with k=4 you have points made from sin of multiples of 2 Pi, which give repeated points.)

{{Point[{-1 - Sqrt[2], 0}], Point[{-1, -Sqrt[2]}], 
  Point[{-1, Sqrt[2]}], Point[{-1 + Sqrt[2], 0}]}}

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k =( An odd number ^n) gives points that make up the RHS unit circle (or one close to it) with concentric circles of less and less points, while points that make up the LHS unit circle (or one close to it) with concentric circles of less and less points are given by k =( an even number ^n):

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A remarkable quality of the points is that the sum of all k=(positive integer, b)^(positive integer, n), is simply b^n !!!!!!!

Table[k = b^n; 
  N[Total[Flatten[
     Evaluate[
      ReIm[(-1)^
         k ((Flatten[Evaluate[Block[{x}, Solve[x^k == k, x]]]])[[All, 
            2]] - 1)]]]]], {n, 2, 7}, {b, 2, 7}] // TableForm

gives

A huge list of all such points

followed by

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POSTED BY: Marvin Ray Burns

: Vitaliy Kaurov et al, I looked at the OP and tried to understand what was happening. I could still use some more insight into it! For instance, what happens when you sum the terms of each specific "satellite" of the MRB? And what is their sum in terms of the MRB? And why are the terms of each specific "satellite" follow the path given by the mentioned angle i.e.. Degree {143.8, 120, 90, 60, 36.2}. ? And why are those points of the "satellites" outside that negative unit circle, and not inside?

I will see what insight others can bring to the table, here, and probably build upon those insights. Thank you @Udo Krause for opening up the door to this previously undiscovered relationship!

POSTED BY: Marvin Ray Burns

Very interesting @Udo Krause, I am sure @Marvin Ray Burns would love to take a look.

POSTED BY: Vitaliy Kaurov
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