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Any way to effectively resolve this integral?

Posted 1 day ago

Hello, I am afraid I continue to have problems with resolving some integrals. Given the functions:

Q[xx_,tt_]:=Sqrt[tt]*Exp[-xx^2/(4*D*tt)]-(Sqrt[π/D]*xx/2)*Erfc[xx/Sqrt[4*D*tt]];
G[tt_,ttau_,xx_,kksi_]:=(Exp[-((xx-kksi)^2)/(4*D*(tt-ttau))]+Exp[-((xx+kksi)^2)/(4*D*(tt-ttau))])/Sqrt[4*π*D*(tt-ttau)];

I need to determine analytically the following integral:

Integrate[G[t,tau,x,ksi]*Q[ksi,tau],{tau,0,t},{ksi,0,∞},Assumptions->{t>0,x>0,D>0,tau>0,ksi>0}]

I believe this integral exists, and from some alternative calculations I expect it to be:

(Sqrt[π/D]/D/12)*((2*Sqrt[D*t/π])*(2*D*t-x^2)*Exp[-(x^2)/(4*D*t)]+(x^3)*Erfc[x/Sqrt[4*D*t]])

(but I just want to verify if this is true). Unfortunately, MATHEMATICA does not seem to be able to find this result - it gets frozen and does not output anything. I tried to tackle the univariate integral along variable ksi, involving the second term of function Q, but then MATHEMATICA returns the input Integrate command, which suggests that the integral does not exist. However, if I assume that x=0:

Integrate[G[t,tau,0,ksi]*Q[ksi,tau],{tau,0,t},{ksi,0,∞},Assumptions->{t>0,D>0,tau>0,ksi>0}]

I quickly get the result consistent with the expected formula:

t^(3/2)/3

So, is there any way to force MATHEMATICA to produce the expected output also for x > 0?

By the way, can anybody suggest any useful transformation of variables that might simplify this sort of integrals? I also need to determine the integral involving Q squared:

Integrate[G[t,tau,0,ksi]*Q[ksi,tau]^2,{tau,0,t},{ksi,0,∞},Assumptions->{t>0,D>0,tau>0,ksi>0}]

I have reasons to expect that the latter integral is proportional to t^2, with the proportionality coefficient not depending on t. I want to evaluate the coefficient numerically, but I don't see how this might be done, given the intricate dependence of the integrand on t.

Leslaw

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POSTED BY: Leslaw Bieniasz
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POSTED BY: Mariusz Iwaniuk
Posted 15 hours ago

Mariusz (and Marvin, too):

I don't know yet if I can have access to MATHEMATICA 14.2.0, so that I cannot check your results, but I think your result for the integral involving the first power of Q cannot be correct. It is different from the expected formula

(Sqrt[π/D]/D/12)*((2*Sqrt[D*t/π])*(2*D*t-x^2)*Exp[-(x^2)/(4*D*t)]+(x^3)*Erfc[x/Sqrt[4*D*t]])

and it does not agree with the special case of x=0, in which it should be equal to

t^(3/2)/3

I am sure that especially the latter formula is correct, because it has one more independent verification.

I also suspect that your formulae for the integral with Q squared (and further integrals) are not correct, as from my knowledge this integral does not have an analytical representation.

I think the reason can be that you changed my variables xx to x and tt to t in the formula for Q, but not in the declaration Q[xx,tt]? If this is not the reason, then there must be a bug in MATHEMATICA.

Leslaw

POSTED BY: Leslaw Bieniasz

Assuming some typos of repeating characters, does this help?

Posted 21 hours ago

What does this

tau\[Element]\[CapitalNu]

mean? I can't find this construct in any manuals.

POSTED BY: Leslaw Bieniasz
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