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Looking for (mathematical) function represented by [[x]]?

Posted 9 years ago

What is the function [[x]]? It came from an elementary question posed in a calculus limits assignment and included this nomenclature. Thank you.

POSTED BY: Barbara Mahnke
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David, then I stand enlightened! I should note that either the double-bracket pair nor the single-bracket pair is particularly good notation for greatest integer, i.e., "floor", since then one must decide what notation to use for "ceiling". I believe the more usual notation is ⌊ ... ⌋ for floor and ⌈ ... ⌉ (alas, the two symbols in each of these pairs come out different sizes when I insert HTML code; LaTeX gets them right).

POSTED BY: Murray Eisenberg

Yes I agree Murray! Oddly I think that the (equally awful) notation for ceiling would be ]]x[[

POSTED BY: David Reiss

But so far as I'm aware, the [LeftDoubleBracket] x [RightDoubleBracket] expression has no built-in meaning in Mathematica.

POSTED BY: Murray Eisenberg

Absolutely, I agree. I was just mentioning it because that symbol is listed as representing one of the notations for the greatest integer function on the page that I linked to (http://www.mathwords.com/f/floor_function.htm) as well as in the first paragraph of the wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floorandceiling_functions

So I went to Mathematica and noticed that those brackets copy from mathematica to paste as ascii as [[ and ]] in a text context in other programs.

POSTED BY: David Reiss

I was wondering if it was just a crude ASCII way of typing

\[LeftDoubleBracket]  x \[RightDoubleBracket]

If in fact you past that into Mathematica, select it, copy it and then past it into a text editor it will appear as

[[x]]
POSTED BY: David Reiss

I've never seen the double left-bracket, double right-bracket for greatest integer. Are you sure it's not [ | x | ] , that is, the greatest integer in the absolute value of x?

POSTED BY: Murray Eisenberg

Mathematical notation historically has been a sort of Tower of Babel on many fronts. The nature of a system such as Mathematica is that it removes the ambiguity. But the history is fascinating nonetheless. A very interesting review was written by Stephen Wolfram a bit more than a decade ago:

http://www.stephenwolfram.com/publications/mathematical-notation-past-future/

POSTED BY: David Reiss

I suspect that this is a notation for the greatest integer function (also known as the Floor function) as described here:

http://www.mathwords.com/f/floor_function.htm

POSTED BY: David Reiss
Posted 9 years ago

Thank you! I have dabbled with greatest integer functions, least integer functions and rounding functions which all have similarly (and very inconsistently) applied markings. All are step functions and are great for challenging the kids to truly appreciate the nuances of limits. Knowing exactly what is being asked matters in evaluating this particular problem. Thanks for your help. Thought I was on the Wolfram Alpha site and see this one is different. Thanks for tolerating my intrusion on this board.

POSTED BY: Barbara Mahnke

Can you give more context? Like an example or a picture showing it?

Is this introductory calculus? Or is it the kind of calculus you might have a Math Phd do?

POSTED BY: Sean Clarke
Posted 9 years ago

It is very elementary calculus. "Find the limit as x approaches 3 from the left of 2[[x-3]]+4". Trying to understand the definition of the [[x]] function in order to determine the limit. Thanks for replying!

POSTED BY: Barbara Mahnke
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