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Lagrangian for rolling disk inside a ring

In the discussion for equation for motion for "rolling disk inside a ring" in webpage http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/DiskRollingInsideARotatingRing/ by Mr. Erik Mahieu Lagrangian for the system is not getting displayed. I tried getting it. First, thing I felt that the first equation of motion should r^-2 instead of r^-1. By reverse engineering and my own knowledge I could get the Lagrangian as (K - V) where

K = (1/2  I_1  ?'^2) +(1/2  I_2 ?'^2) + (1/2  m_2 (R-r)^2  ?'^2 ) + (m_2 * (R-r)  )(Cos ?) ?' (R ?' )
      + (1/2 (m_1 + m_2 ) R^2 ?'^2)
V = m_1 g R + m_2 g (R-r)(1-Cos ?)

But the problem is first equation of motion should have the term

(m_2 (R-r)  )(Sin ?) ?' (R ?' )

I am not able to get the clear picture and complete physical interpretation of the last two terms of K. I will be grateful if I can get the Lagrange of the system be displayed with a bit of explanation. Regards, Ravi Shankar Gautam

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There is Lagrangian. To see this you need to download the demo and open the file using Mathematica. In section DETAILS there is an expression

\[ScriptCapitalL]=1/2(2 g Subscript[m, 2] (-r+R) cos \[Theta](t)+r^-2((Subscript[I, 2]+Subscript[m, 2] r^2) (r-R)^2 \[Theta]^\[Prime](t)^2+2 (r-R) R (Subscript[I, 2]+Subscript[m, 2] r^2 cos \[Theta](t)) \[Theta]^\[Prime](t) \[Phi]^\[Prime](t)+(Subscript[I, 1] r^2+(Subscript[I, 1]+(Subscript[m, 1]+Subscript[m, 2]) r^2) R^2) \[Phi]^\[Prime](t)^2))
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