Message Boards Message Boards

What is the winter solstice?

11 Replies

POSTED BY: Peter Burbery

Is there a name for the first type which is when the declination is at its minimum value, and the second type, when the ecliptic longitude is 270 degrees?

POSTED BY: Peter Burbery

I don't know of any standard names distinguishing these two definitions of solstices and equinoxes.

Do both calculations take into account the fact that light takes more than 8 minutes to reach the Earth, light aberration, nutation, and time zones?

POSTED BY: Peter Burbery

Yes, they both do, because AstroPosition with the "Ecliptic" (i.e. "TrueEcliptic") and "Equatorial" (i.e. "TETE", meaning "true equator, true equinox") frames always defaults to observing from the Earth, and the "true" in their names means that nutation effects are included. Time zones are taken into account in the sense of results being reported in an explicit time zone, to avoid any ambiguity.

How would you compute the declination definition for the spring, summer and autumn points with FindMinimum?

POSTED BY: Peter Burbery

The definitions of the four events would be:

  • Winter solstice: the Sun's declination reaches a minimum.
  • Spring equinox: the Sun's declination is zero and increasing.
  • Summer solstice: the Sun's declination reaches a maximum.
  • Autumn equinox: the Sun's declination is zero and decreasing.

Therefore we need to use FindMinimum, FindMaximum or FindRoot depending on the case.

On page 14 of the book Essential Astrophysics, Kenneth R Lang states the displacement delta theta in the sense of apparent minus mean place is given by delta theta is approximately V/c sin theta -1/2 (V/c)^2 sin(2 theta) +(V/c)^3 (sin theta (cos (theta))^2 -1/3 (sin(theta))^3)+... which seems to me like an infinite series that could be manipulated with Series or the superfunction asymptotic. How is stellar aberration implemented into Mathematica?

POSTED BY: Peter Burbery

Aberration can be computed exactly in special relativity, and that's what we implement. See for example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_aberration

The formula you mention is a series expansion of the exact relativistic formula for small v/c.

Too bad GMT is so close to Stonehenge time, no hopes of trying to make a high-precision measurement of the sun's castings at that exact place and time; although, they can probably be seen later this afternoon in USA.

It would be great if we could find an artist and a scientist to make a miniature device that can be installed anywhere and works better than Stonehenge. Given all the various predictive issues, the only way forward would be to try and make a measurement...

POSTED BY: Brad Klee

enter image description here -- you have earned Featured Contributor Badge enter image description here Your exceptional post has been selected for our editorial column Staff Picks http://wolfr.am/StaffPicks and Your Profile is now distinguished by a Featured Contributor Badge and is displayed on the Featured Contributor Board. Thank you!

POSTED BY: EDITORIAL BOARD
Reply to this discussion
Community posts can be styled and formatted using the Markdown syntax.
Reply Preview
Attachments
Remove
or Discard

Group Abstract Group Abstract