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Asymptotic plot is not matching the analysis line in log mode, but it does in linear mode. Why?

Posted 25 days ago

Hello everyone, this is my first post. In Mathematica, I am attempting to create an asymptotic plot. In linear mode, the asymptotic lines align with the analysis line after a certain SNR (dB). However, when I switch to log mode for the y-axis, the asymptotic plot no longer matches the simulation/analysis line. Could anyone please tell me how to overcome this problem?

POSTED BY: Pewdi Pie12
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POSTED BY: Moderation Team
Posted 23 days ago

Thanks for the information.

POSTED BY: Pewdi Pie12

Hello Pewdi Pie12, welcome to the Wolfram Community and thank you for your first post! You've run into a common issue when switching between linear and logarithmic scales in plotting, especially concerning the behavior of asymptotic analysis plots. But it's not just about the discrepancy between the linear and log modes in your plots, it's not about what the Biostatistics graduate talks are doing.

snr = Range[1, 100];
responseFunction = 10 + 10*Log10[snr];
asymptoticFunction = 20 + Log10[snr];
linearPlot = 
  Plot[{10 + 10*Log10[x], 20 + Log10[x]}, {x, 1, 100}, 
   PlotStyle -> {Red, {Black, Dashed}}, 
   PlotLegends -> {"Response", "Asymptotic"}, 
   PlotLabel -> "Linear Scale"];
logPlot = 
  Plot[{10 + 10*Log10[x], 20 + Log10[x]}, {x, 1, 100}, 
   PlotStyle -> {Red, {Black, Dashed}}, 
   PlotLegends -> {"Response", "Asymptotic"}, 
   ScalingFunctions -> "Log", PlotRange -> {1, 50}, 
   PlotLabel -> "Log Scale"];
GraphicsRow[{linearPlot, logPlot}]

Linear Log 1

Especially in terms of scale sensitivity and the definition range for log functions (as logarithms of non-positive numbers are undefined). How do logarithmic transformations handle data? We can use Log10 in our functions which inherently prepares them for a logarithmic scale, especially noticeable with the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) context that you've got with the ScalingFunctions -> "Log" option in the Plot function which gives us the logarithmic scaling to the y-axis. But let's get out of this linear and logarithmic plotting mode and compare the functions on a linear and a logarithmic..y-scale. Maybe your function is too asymptotic for the scaling comparison.

f[x_] := Exp[-x]*Log[x + 1]
g[x_] := 1/x
linearPlot = 
  Plot[{f[x], g[x]}, {x, 1, 100}, 
   PlotStyle -> {Blue, {Red, Dashed}}];
Show[linearPlot]
logYPlot = 
  LogPlot[{f[x], g[x]}, {x, 1, 100}, 
   PlotStyle -> {Blue, {Red, Dashed}}];
Show[logYPlot]

Linear Log 2

And since we have logarithmic functions that only handle positive values, maybe your y-values are all positive before applying the log scale. Maybe you could have some plot range with the relevant values without extending into ranges where the log function becomes undefined (near zero). The logarithmic transformation might not be as informative as it seems.

POSTED BY: Dean Gladish
Posted 23 days ago

Thanks a ton Mr. Gladish. May the Almighty bless you.

POSTED BY: Pewdi Pie12
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