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Model the Coffee cooling problem with WSM?

Posted 9 years ago

Greetings while I am new to WSM I have a few years physics experience.

It seems to me that a the classic 'when do I add milk/cream? is a perfect opportunity for illustrating the modelling capabilities of WSM. However, I am yet to see this application..

Too simple perhaps?

I have plenty of examples of mathematical modelling. this conference article covers all the possibilities with 5 models, each more complex to allow for fat globules on surface insulation radiation, colour of surface of cup, material of cup, volume of cup, surface area etc..

I am hoping experienced WSM guru will not find this too trivial and apply their talents to develop an all tim classic WSM model..

regards Gary high school physics/IT teacher melbourne Australia

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Posted 9 years ago

Patrik, your detailed reply is very helpful.

In high school the purpose of the exercise is exploration within limits. These examples provide alternatives which can usefully be explored and verified by direct experiment.

limits of theory and limits of experiment (accuracy and errors) are all important lessons which can be reinforced with open ended exploration.

Comparison of different coffee pouring strategies can easily be measured and now modelled. Different cup materials and configurations can now also be accounted for. surface area, covered/uncovered, material glass, ceramic, metal, colour, double walled, vacuum insulated..

I appreciate your comment about 'over fitting the model' however in physics this is a constant temptation because we can.. Knowing when to stop is an important skill. regards Gary Melbourne (ambient air temp = 32?C today..)

POSTED BY: Gary Bass
Posted 9 years ago

Nicely done Marco.

POSTED BY: Gary Bass

Hi Everyone, I know that I am not actually answering the question, which is already answered, I believe. Here is something that I do in my lectures regarding that same problem. I don't use WSM, but just standard Mathematica and a rather simple approach based on Newton's law for cooling. Please see: Coffee & milk problem with Arduino and Newton's law of cooling

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POSTED BY: Patrik Ekenberg

WSM can do this easily and is perfect for that type of system. I would start with one of the heat transfer examples and modify it. You can even add some of the thermal components if you want to model circulating air (i.e. someone turns on a fan!). Look at the thermal examples to see how to do that. The basic case is very much like the examples.

If you have problems you can post your example for some more help.

Regards

POSTED BY: Neil Singer

BTW why not Mathematica? See: The Coffee Cooling Problem. You can download the code freely there.

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POSTED BY: Vitaliy Kaurov

This doesn't answer your question but I couldn't resist posting that a classmate of mine at Reed College, Andrew Case, wrote a B.A. dissertation modelling the behaviour of milk drops falling into a cup of coffee, and if I recall correctly, even did some of the work in Mathematica http://catalog.library.reed.edu/REED:local:CP71102917680001451

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